A few years ago I was in the process of upgrading my media room and because of my basement room all the surrounds needed to be ceiling mounted. I know this is not necessarily ideal but such is my room so I needed a great solution to help make the best of my situation. I had some previous experience with the ML Helos 100 when I did a house remodel about 7 years ago using Sonos and TV audio as the main sources. At the time I reviewed several manufacturers of in ceiling speakers and felt the ML were the best. In fact that quest introduced me for the first time to the ML brand period. This encounter then eventually lead to Summit X speakers which was the start of my ML journey – but that is a discussion for a different time. The update to my media room was 4 years later and I wanted to stay with ML so Shawn from DaVinci Media suggest the Vanquish as my in ceiling solution. Once I got to review them on line I could see they were a very serious high end in ceiling speaker just exactly what I was looking for indeed! So I ordered 4 of them and then securely mounted them in ceiling. Actually had to make some wood brackets spanning the joists so that the speakers were mounted securely as the drop ceiling itself would of never have held them. They are crazy heavy, big and just cry out tons quality. It’s amazing all that is packed into that 13” round area yet it totally makes sense what is in there and how the individual speakers are placed within each. The speaker has a couple of switches to allow for different location placements which is really nice to help customize each speaker’s sound to its physical location. However from an installation perspective they are big and heavy yet are quite easy to mount. If you have ever worked with other speakers getting them locked in and tight is not always that easy while holding the speaker in place. The design ML has is clever and works great either installing or if you every have to remove it. In addition they have an installation bracket that really helps to hold each in place as the locks are tightened down. I also like that there is no visible ¾” or so lip showing once in place. The only thing showing is the perforated paintable disc with a very short lip. The other thing is the disc is magnetically attached unlike many others that are much harder to remove. I have removed mine several times as I like to show people what is ‘under the hood’ so to speak. Everyone is just blown away at what they see and always have questions concerning what they are looking at. Sonically they work great for surrounds and I have been real happy that I did spend the extra money for these as they have performed very well indeed. A year or so ago I decided to upgrade my media room to a 7.2.2 system. The obvious choice was to add two more Vanquish for the 2 additional ATMOS channels. Now with 6 in ceiling speakers, a Focus center channel and a pair of 13A’s speakers I have a great media room. Yes the front three channels are great but 4K movie and concert Blu-rays would not have nearly the impact without these great sounding surrounds. There is an argument to make to not spend so much money on the surround speakers as they are not nearly as important as the front three channels. I agree to a point. All I can tell you is with the Vanquish speakers as my surrounds truly makes the in home experience so much more real and are very much worth the extra cost in my opinion. These speakers can put out volumes of good sound just like the Director, Band or Singer wanted!